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That's easy…ummm. The odd thing about Mason is that he…umm. Have you ever like…most of you are old enough to have an old friend who passed away that you hadn't seen in a long time and you hear from someone else, "Oh they died two years ago." And you think, "Oh how sad." You know? Mason is kind of like that with me. But the odd thing is it doesn't feel like he's dead it just feels like I haven't seen him in a long time. You know? Like he suddenly might knock on my door or I might get an email from him or something. Daytime is very sensitive when you play a character every day, 5 days a week, for 5 years it becomes like…you know…what's that Steven King novel when his alter ego comes to haunt him? The what? (Secret Window) Yeah…yeah! It's sorta like that, but Mason is not quite as dark as John Turturro is in that movie with Johnny Depp but it is like an alter ego or an old friend that I haven't seen in a long time. Does that make sense? It's an odd sort of feeling and I don't know if people other than soap actors get them. I miss him from time to time. He's like an old friend that I haven't seen in a long time. Sort of interesting to see him turn up again somewhere. And as far as…I'm thrilled with the fact that people still remember and love old Mason especially overseas. Because my other work has been so sporadic you know that is what I'm known outside the United States. The Crew ran in Findland or something but internationally Mason is my identity basically.

Ah…do you have horses, Sandy? Do you have horses? Are you a horse woman? (Sandy: No but I like horses.). Yeah, I like horses. I don’t ride a lot. You know. I have ridden, and I studied. I took a course in college in riding, and then when I did that Superman episode where I had to do so much riding, um, the guy that was actually my stuntman if—did any of you see that superman episode where I get—Where I was the medieval baron and everything? Yeah. Well Dale Gibson is the guy who got dragged off the horse by, by Dean Cain’s stunt double. Um, but he’s also an, um, an umber horseman. And so, they put me with Dean for a couple of days to train, to just sort of brush up my limited equitation skills. Um, and that’s probably my pleasantest memories of horseback riding. They had that fabulous black gelding that I rode in that, um, show, as both the baron and as Tempus Tex. And it was like, you know, you just, I’m not used to riding animals that are smarter than I am. But this horse was. He was one of those movie horses that, you know, made Lassie look like a dummy. He was so smart. Made me look like I knew what I was doing. Um, and I’ve had some unfond memories, a pony who threw me to the ground with an alarming force, and, um, pain, when I was about 13 years old. But in his defense, he did not have a saddle. He did not want to be ridden. You know. But I still remember how hard the ground was and how long it took me to get my breath back, after he threw me. Because I landed on like rocky ground. It was just—that made me–I was afraid of horse for a while after that. I did not get right back on and start riding again. But now, no. I like still like horses. I just don’t get the opportunity to ride that much.

Did everybody hear that? The unique challenges of comedy and drama… Timing is critical. Comedy's harder. You know it's much…if you're casting from this...the director's side of the table, the producer's side of the table, it's easier to find a good dramatic actor than it is to find funny people. That's what's so special about this cast like the girl that plays Dierdre is hysterically funny. You know it's very hard to find really cute and she can do drama but she's funny. It's something in the bones. You know. So you have to find somebody with the quality of being funny and then timing and all of that stuff is just critical. Like Ruth whom most of you have seen in one of the Shakespeare plays I've done is a wonderful dramatic actress she does not have an innate sense, and don't ever tell her I told you this, she does not have an innate sense of comedic timing. In other words when she first reads through a script she'll take too much time because she approaches it from dramatic standpoint. But by the time you get to the performance she's very funny and the stuff she's missing you can feed her because she takes direction brilliantly. But she is not a comedic actress by nature but because…any good actor or actress you can kinda feed the timing and get them to be funny but people are just funny in the bones. Like Marc Silver who played Polonius and uh Flute in Midsummer most of you might have seen, uh is one of the funniest people I've ever worked with. You can give him anything and he'll make it funny just because he's a funny person. The big difference is comedy is harder, because it's technically more difficult to do than drama. You can take too much time with drama and it still be dramatic and you can take too much time with comedy and you know the laughs won't come. And night to night, even like with this show it's interesting, night to night stuff would be half a beat off and it wouldn't get the laugh. If it's right on the beat it'll get the laugh. That answer your question? Good.

No until I read that question or heard that question I didn't realize that it wasn't credited. Because you know it's credited in other places, but uh for some reason IMDB doesn't have it. Is it in my list of credits in IMDB do you know? Does anybody know? Yeah so… (Jocelyn: From what I know I think it's also user maintained so just because…) IMDB is? To some extent. That may be because they do take… But they verify stuff 'cause I've submitted stuff and there's stuff they've missed that I can't find the exact episode or name of the episode so I can't really say hey you've missed this one. You know but it's pretty complete and very up to date but um I'm pretty sure if you found the studio's credit it would be in there. Because the other guy was Theodore Bikel who's been around since Moses was a pup. Theodore Bikel was Zoltan Karpathy in my Fair Lady with Rex Harrison and Audrey Hepburn. You know I mean respected. I think he's actually…I think he's Austrian by birth. He's an interesting old guy but that was the two of us in those unrecognizable make-ups on that show which I would just assume not be on the site because they're not very flattering. But it's a little thing T does just to keep me…just to keep me humble. She keeps those unattractive pictures up, and pictures of me as Marlene Deitrich.

That's a real hard question. Umm…'cause I'm trying to think of a scenario where I would actually…you know. Where would we be…would we be sitting at like a bar? You know would it be a formal interview? You know sitting at like a bar I'd talk about the plays. I think, you know? Then I'd want to know about…what I'd really like to know is the company and who plays what in each play. Because I'm sorta trying to design a company where you know the same guys play the same sort of parts, but no there's some fairly in depth questions I would ask him but I think I'd have to have a couple of ales in me before I would know exactly what those would be. And then I'd want to talk about his personal life too. Like, you know he lost a son, stuff like that. And the relationship with his wife, you know that he just sort of left in Stratford and was hugely successful in London, only occasionally went back to Stratford. Things in his personal life, but it wouldn't be like what's his favorite color and you know what tv show does he like? (TrishDr What ice cream do you like?) Right what ice cream do you like? Well it'd mostly be about Hamlet and Macbeth.

Um it wouldn't have been Cruz. Cruz was so nice; it wouldn't have been fun for me. Uh probably Keith. Probably Keith and now maybe CC. I'd love to see what I can do with CC now that I am like older than Jed was at the time. You know. That would be fun. I can't think of anybody else I'd want to play other than those two characters. Maybe Gina in another…gender. In another gender I think I could do something with Gina.

Oh fun. Um yeah I probably will do more stuff in Dalton. You know those of you that have followed me closely know that my mother and father were real active in Little Theatre and my brothers still are. Um, so, um and I'm trying to do more and more stuff on this coast and spend actually less time in Los Angeles so um I probably will do, will do some more stuff in Dalton I just don't know exactly when that will be.

It would be heartbreaking if another cold war started, because in the interim, I got so fond of Russia and the Russian people especially. I grew up in the heart, in the heat of the cold war, you know. It’s all I remembered until the wall came down in ’89. Then I got over there and found out that we were as subjected to propaganda as the Russians had been for the most part. We were never shown average Russian people, we were shown little old ladies that looked like potatoes with a scarf on their head, and these dour looking Khrushchev-like men. They didn’t really show us young Russian people, and attractive Russian people, and warm, friendly Russian people, and most of them are. They’re also tough as nails, so it’s a good thing we never did go to war with them because you couldn’t occupy a country like that. For the relationship to fall apart because we are so diplomatically challenged at the moment, would be really heartbreaking. I don’t think it’s going to happen. I don’t we we’ll get into a full blown cold war. I’m still…my jury is still out on Putin. I met Putin years ago, I met Gorbachev years ago, and some other up and coming Russian politicians, and I’d like to think he wants what’s best for Russia, but he also understands that there are people on the plant that need to be governed. People in which, as much as we love democracy, and as wonderful a form of government as democracy is, there are people on the plant who need – I don’t want to get on a political soapbox – but there are people who need to be governed more strongly than others. The Russian environment, especially in terms of crime, is a much more dangerous environment than America’s is. Putin, having come from the KGB, knows where all the bodies are buried and knows how to deal with those people, and sometimes the best way to deal with them is to take away personal freedom. We would rebel, as has been clear since 9 11, against that sort of inroad being made against our personal freedom, but there are times in a country’s history where it’s somewhat necessary. I don’t think it’s necessary in our country’s history right now, but it may be in Russia’s, so my judgment is still out on Putin, but I just hope and pray that we’re not at a start of another cold war. Having grown up under the grotesque shadow of global-thermo-nuclear annihilation, I’d hate to see my children grow up under the same warning. Those of you who are in my generation, you remember what it was like – the drills, people building bomb shelters, and talking about what it would be like to have to gun down your neighbors if they tried to get into your bomb shelter. You can’t imagine. It wasn’t like a daily threat, but it was always kind of in the back of your mind as a child. I think it’s one reason the sixties were as crazy as they were. We were like, well, if we’re going to get blown up tomorrow, we might as well have fun now. OK. I sort of went on too long about that one.

Believe it or not, it's trains. Umm and it's prob.... it's odd because I hardly ever get to ride on them, but I love train travel, especially like European train travel. I don't ever travel by train in the United States but umm I don't like to drive, I don't particularly like worrying about who's around me and all that stuff. And for those of you that have been on umm.. European trains, it's just.. the best way to go, you know. Umm.. Helen has never been on an European train before have you.... Umm... You know there are trains in France, where the food is better than in the restaurants, you know, in town, and they travel along at lightning speed...with barely a bump you know and fabulous countryside goes by.... and you don't have to worry about anything. You know, it's just the most relaxing way to fly. Aeroplanes, unless it's a transatlantic flight, it's too much work to get on and off the airplane: to get to an airport, to get on.. through the airport, on the plane, through the security, off the plane, you know, it's.. it's not a relaxing way to travel, it gets you there faster but to get on it you know.... throw your bag on a train and sit back in a comfortable chair or better yet a sleeper car.... it's just faboulous and you meet interesting people, you know. I've had some wonderful sorts of adventures on trains. I once spent 27 hours on a train in Russia, going from - I don't know - you know, I went through like eight time zones or something in Russia, through Kazachstan and out the other side into the Ural mountains, you know, and the train was full of fascinating people, that sort of took me under their wing. I can remember signing autographs on a platform in Kazachstan and all of these, you know, Mongolian looking people thrusting pens and things at me, you know, it's a wonderful way to travel!

(Lane laughs real hard) I have a question for her…Are you mad, Nadia? Do you think I would really write that stuff down? No. I couldn’t. I couldn’t out of respect for some of the people I’ve known, and I couldn’t, right now, out of fear for my own life. They’d have to be published posthumously if I were to ever do that. So I doubt that I would …I’ll leak information that’s on a need to know basis, but (he spies someone drinking out of a Daffy Duck cup)…….I love that cup. I think you should have bought Daffy cups for all of us. But, no, I will probably leak enough information, but an actual autobiography…I don’t…other than like the people in this room…I don’t think I could get anyone to publish it anyway. So, I would say probably not. I would never say never, ‘cause I’m still working on what I want act three to be. So, we'll see.

No, I don’t use a looking glass, I don’t use the kids because they would run me out of the house, and the pets…no it frightens the pets when I pick up the sword. SO it’s most a matter I thought I would do more research on Barrymore than I did. I had read a lot about him years ago, and I got a copy of Good Night, Sweet Prince and read key parts of it, but I actually didn’t finish the book until a day or two ago, but I had enough that I thought I had the essence of what he was – at least what he’s presented to be in this play. The usual process is to get some information about the part and/or the person I’m playing, and then if it’s a contemporary play, it’s very different from Shakespeare. Shakespeare’s a much more involved process that involves doing the text first, along with some history, a lot of word work, and by that time, the character usually sort of emerges. Olivier said there were two types of actors – there are those who sort of have an idea of what the character sort of looks and sounds like, and then they find some of the character swimming around inside that, or there’s somebody who approaches it from a totally internal sort of actor’s studio way where they come at it from the inside out. I’ve really been more of the external type. I sort of can pick up a script and I have an idea of what I want him to – what he looks and sounds like, and then I find the character inside that characterization. Both are legitimate processes, but I tend to be…go from the outside in more than anything. I sort of knew what this guy sounded and looked like before I did any work at all on the text.

Like I remember. I can remember some favorite scenes. I think my favorite with Harley, actually was the very first one where I found out she was a nun when we were dancing in the atrium. I loved that scene. I had a lot of fun scenes with her. The barn comes to mind. I liked the barn scene. Then, Gina. Nothing really stands out. I always had fun with Robin, but nothing really sticks out. There was the time I got to say “I have to go drain the lizard,” and it got by the censors. I forget what I said…”I have to go see a man about a horse” and she said “What?” This is when I was Sonny Sprocket, and she said “What?” I said “I gotta go drain the lizard,” and she said “What?”, and I said “I gotta ago take a leak, OK?” For some reason that was when the network censors were like, down – they liked fired them for budget reasons, we got that by. And then the next day I tried to say “You look like something that’s been rode hard and put away wet,” which is a simple equine reference, but they were so sure it was dirty, they wouldn’t let me play it. They wouldn’t let me say it. And then there was the time that I think Gina was in the scene, but Joe Marinelli offered me calamari, as Sonny Sprocket, and I said “What’s that? Some kind of spaghetti?” And he said “It’s squid.” I said “Well, I never eat anything with more than four legs or less than two.” They said in the booth later, that the director heard that, ‘cause it was an ad-lib, heard that and looked around at the producer, and the producer said, “Chicken? Turkeys? ” And they got that by. Julia. The cave was fun. I liked the cave. It was a set. It was on the set. I think the exterior was on location, but it was on a set. It was in Burbank. Stage 11 in Burbank. I loved the…I think I said in the comments I loved the Kris Kringle stuff. Those scenes I thought were really fun, but I’m a Miracle on 34th Street sucker. (At this point it was brought up that Chuck McCann, Kris Kringle, had been on Boston Legal that week.) No. Was he on? Oh how funny. Chuck McCann. I’m so glad he’s still working. He’s a really lovely man. Those Right Guard commercials were in the sixties. Late sixties I think. “Hi Guy.” Remember those? Most of you don’t remember those.

I don't know about the cast. And it's like television, film, stage? Do you know if she's specific? TV, you know, if Sam Waterston fell over tomorrow and they needed a DA on Law an Order, that would be a really fun gig to have. On stage I've been fortunate enough to do most of the really big roles I've wanted to do. I still want to do Atticus, I think there was a question out there about Atticus in To Kill A Mockingbird. I'd like to take one more crack at Cyrano, maybe. I'd like to do another La Mancha before I die – or a couple more La Manchas. I love La Mancha. I could do that one from now ‘til doomsday. And cast wise, it would take me too long to put those casts together.

That's a little confusing when you first hear it, ‘cause your first thought is hmmmm, no Novocain, no indoor plumbing, gardyloo, all of that 17th century stuff, so in that respect, no, I’m glad I live in a civilized, somewhat civilized world. And yeah, it would be tough to do love scenes with young boys as women. It's confusing, it a difficult enough business as it is, and it’s hard enough to sort of suspend your disbelief and make it work with somebody that’s not you wife or lover or what have you, but then to have them the wrong gender besides, would be really tricky. Back in the day, it might not have been that difficult for an actor. I mean it’s all just make believe, so, who knows?

I bet that's Barb.  Miss Emily...my mother Miss Emily Davies, in a way did, because there was a copy of Good Night, Sweet Prince, in the library. She...mother loved books and she loved being surrounded by books, and there was an old copy of Good Night, Sweet Prince, and that's when I first started reading about Barrymore.  But I didn't, like, watch his movies...you know most of the movies that Barrymore was in, later in his career were not that interesting to me, but I sort of became fascinated in his career before he got into the movies because other than a few silents, he was 43 when he finished doing Hamlet in London, and touring it, and then he went to Hollywood and just started making whopping gobs of money for the time.  In a space of about 15 years, had...the bottle got him you know, and four marriages, and some thieving attorneys that got hold of his power of attorney, stuff like that.  He really had a kind of unhappy end. But I was always sort of...from the time I first read that...and then I read a lot of Damned In Paradise, if not the whole thing, which is another Barrymore book,...he's always been sort of a fascinating figure for a long time I've always had an odd sort of affinity for him, though I hopefully don't share some of his weaker points.  (The PS part of the question is repeated...) Older brothers are older brothers, and you know he tends to think I have an inordinate amount of ego, and you know, I may be a little flamboyant and theatrical. I think that's where that comes from - because everybody in this room knows it's...it's a total crock. Nothing flamboyant or nothing over the top.  Yes.  A black lie.

Two, two questions.  It's like Ethel Barrymore said, I'm looking for a great third act. One wish is to be able to pass along some of what I've learned over the last however many years I've been doing this...thirty some odd years as a professional actor.  Just being able, basically being able to work on projects that I want to work on. It's one reason I moved back to Georgia, I didn't want to have to chase work, and living in Georgia enables me to relax a little bit, and concentrate on projects I want to do.  I don't think I've seen the last of LA, and I don't think I've seen the last of film and television, but at this point in my life with my boys 15 and 16 years old, you know, I'm not going to be a dad that much longer, so, at least not a day to day dad that much longer, so I want to sort of maximize that time and get ready for whatever the third act is.  And for the boys, I just, you know, I want them to do like I have I want them to find something they love to do and then spend their life doing it, regardless of how much it brings them in terms of material wealth.  That's the most important thing to do something that you love to do.  The old phrase "your money or your life" as we were talking about there's a double entendre there, you know.  It's not just a stick up line, it's you can either spend your life making a lot of money you know, or you can spend your life doing something you love to do.  If you can make a lot of money doing something you love to do, that's...you're very fortunate, and I was fortunate, 'cause you know, I did better than most in my time in LA. And I'm probably not done in LA or New York, but the main thing is that my avocation is my vocation.  I was able to sort of meld the two together, so that's what I would wish for my boys. I don't care what they do as long as they like doing it, 'cause there's nothing worse than spending eight hours a day doing something you hate, and most of us have done it at one time or another.  Sometimes you have to do it for a while, but you know, I'm a big believer in if you do what you love, the money will follow you you'll figure out a way to make a living out of it, and if you can't, at least spend the time you're not doing something you hate, doing something you love. That's the second best compromise I think.  (Responding to a question about the boys becoming actors) Nathan I think will, I mean they've both been in plays, but Thatcher is not social enough to enjoy being an actor.  Nathan is, and Nathan is like me, he'll need a way to make a lot of money that's not very hard to do.  Something that's really not like work but he can make a lot of money doing because he's on the lazy side and...but he has an inordinate amount of charm and sort of a way with people.  Thatcher could well wind up writing, though right now he wants to go into bio-medical engineering. He'd like...not because he wants to help you know, Iraqi veterans, it's because he wants to turn himself into a cyborg and rule the world for ten million years. And he's smart enough to do it, is what worries me. I just hope he has enough conscience to do it well. But either way I think they'll...I think I've drummed into them that I don't care what you do, just have fun doing it. Life's too short, I mean Santa Barbara was twenty years ago. We were in the thick of Santa Barbara twenty years ago.  It doesn't seem like twenty years...those of you that remember Santa Barbara, does is seem like twenty years ago? Two decades? Time/space is a very undependable continuum to put your faith in, so you might as well spend your time, as you know, doing what you like.

MTSU has a course called Equitation and you spent the first part of the course learning about horses and then they took you out, and showed you how to clean hooves and ride horses. All you did was...MTSU used to be a much more agriculturally oriented school.  It wasn't an ag school but it had a big agricultural part of it, so there was this one course that was an entire semester where you basically just learned not just not to ride, but how to take care of a horse - minor, sort of veterinarian maintenance, and stuff. So that, and then Dale Gibson who taught me how to ride for Superman, and I think I took a lesson before an Irish Spring commercial I was auditioning for, a hundred years ago, but didn't get.  I didn't look Irish enough.

I think she's talking about, what was a typical day on Santa Barbara like? We'd go in about 7:30 to start what they….and General Hospital didn't work this way. General Hospital was what was called a block/tape show. You'd go in and you'd camera block - the director would show you the blocking of the camera, and then you'd go and get hair and makeup, and come back and shoot the scene. And so you could be done in half a day. Santa Barbara… which is a process I liked because with the amount of dialogue, I couldn't have done it block/tape. You go in at 7:30 in the morning, and you would dry block, which means the director would just show you where you were in the scene - either in the rehearsal hall or on the set - we liked to do it on the set because it made it easier later on. Then you'd go and take a nap or learn lines, and then come back and camera block - you'd run through everything twice for camera, so the camera guys and the director could see where you were and set up the shots. Then we'd break for lunch, then we'd come back and dress rehearse the entire show. Everything that happened in one set would be shot, then we'd move to another set and we'd shoot all of that, then move to another set, shoot all of that. It was sort of in sequence that way, but then the show would be cut together later. Then we'd come back at about four o'clock, and start to tape the show. That could take anywhere from an hour and a half with Michael Gliona to five or six hours if it was earthquakes, or fires, or tricky technical sweeps type stuff. So it was a long day - typically anywhere from nine to fourteen hour days. And then I would drive over the hill and do Hamlet, Macbeth or Cyrano, which is why I quit after five years. Seventy pages a day we used to put in the can for Santa Barbara. Scripts are sixty to seventy pages. Superman would be ten days to shoot that much material. Sitcoms you rehearse for a week - a forty page script for a week - and then you shoot it on Friday night, once or twice in front of an audience. On Santa Barbara, we were putting twenty pages a day in the can, and then they'd edit it, but we would get enough material - usually enough material for an entire show in one day. Real complicated stuff would sometimes lop over into other days, and they'd do post shoots. When I was doing Taming of the Shrew in Georgia, I would pre-tape stuff, and then they would cut that stuff into the shows later on. For the most part, it was a twelve hour day to shot seventy pages of material. Basically.

Everybody's a fan of Elvis, you know. And I was never like a rabid Elvis fan, but you know, I sort of had an opportunity to show off and do songs I just wanted to do, so I did throw in a little Elvis medley there. But, it's not like I was a huge Elvis fan as a boy. (Did you wear a white jump suit?) No, no, I just wore like half a tuxedo - it was very casual, a grand piano and me, and you know - it was about half concert and half appearance thing I did to crassly capitalize on my popularity from Santa Barbara. And to have fun. I mean I went all over Russia - I've been in, I think, every time zone in Russia, and there are eleven time zones in Russia, and most of that is because of the popularity of Santa Barbara. So…but my favorite role of all time, ehhhh, it's hard to say. Probably Quixote is one of them, in Man of La Mancha. Uh, Macbeth, Petruchio. This is one of the most fun times I've had doing a show, I think. This part - after doing Lear, and Prospero, and Macbeth, it's not like work at all, you know. I get to sit around and watch other people work instead of the whole show riding on my shoulders. It's just too much fun, but not hard. Those of you who have seen me do the hard stuff know that this role is not like a great strain for me to do. It's just fun. You know, it's one of those odd parts. It's a play you can't do unless you have an actor that has a peculiar skill set for this part, 'cause if you don't have a Barrymore - you don't have - this play won't work. So it's not that you - it requires an especially good actor, it requires a certain type of actor that can do a certain amount of things. You have to be able to fence somewhat, you have to have some classical background, you know, and you have to have a certain sort of - shall we say, flamboyance - to pull it off. So…but it's not like work, especially when you have a good audience - that's just fun. It's a little scary, 'cause you're always courting gross public humiliation at any turn when you're on stage with a live audience, but for the most part, it's just not like work at all.

My favorite movie, if I had to pick one movie out of many, many movies, might be Casablanca. I don't know…you know, I guess I'm just a romantic at heart, but there's something about that movie that just speaks to me. That scene where she comes into the bar and he hasn't seen her in - I don't know - I'm a sucker for that kind of stuff. My favorite actor is…living or dead? Olivier is my guiding light. I think Robert Duvall - most of you have heard me say I think Robert Duvall defines film acting. I love Clint Eastwood even though he's…he doesn't have the range of most other actors. There's something about Clint Eastwood as a person, as an actor, as a director, that I have a *huge* amount of admiration for. So, those would be some of my favorites. Actresses? I love Meryl Streep - I find her just flawless, but not from like a woo-hoo kind of stand….I mean, woo-hoo would be like Rene Russo. I have a real thing for Rene Russo. Um…um…I don't know. Actresses, it's more like the mood I'm in at the time. There are some actresses I just love in certain things. Comedians? Um, I'm trying - let me think - funny movies - I like Robin Williams a whole lot. Robin Williams. The ones I like are comedians that can move me. Steve Martin - I love Steve Martin. I don't know. Name some other funny guys. Jim Carey….nehhhhh. I love Morgan Freeman - that made me think of Bruce Almighty. I love Morgan Freeman as an actor. I like resonance. If they're funny or serious, I like actors with resonance, if that makes sense. I don't know. I like Debra Messing a lot - from Will and Grace - she kind of does it for me. Really good looking women that are smart and funny - that's a dangerous combination for me. And rare. Yeah.

Most of you will probably disagree - you mean of the four series that I did? Woops was the most fun to do. You know, it was only five of us, Terry Hughes directed it who's - he did Third Rock, and he did a couple of my - he did Good and Evil - it's a British guy who looks like he came out of central casting - extremely good looking, white haired, 55 year old British guy. Good and Evil was great, but you know, but I'm just saying on a day to day basis, because of the nature of the work, the more people you have in a cast, the more dynamics there are, and you know. It was a funnier show, than Woops, but Woops - we had that great set - it was fun to sit around in that cabin set - there were only four or five other people in the cast - it was kind of like this cast you know - and we'd have a guest star come in. Like Joey Lawrence would come in, and it was just so relaxing, and fun, and it was just not at all like work. And the premise I thought was funny. People just didn't get it, that it was an allegory - not Gilligan's Island. Fox - because it was - because the show was commissioned by NBC- the pilot was - NBC didn't pick up the pilot, Fox said we'll take it, we think it's funny, and then Fox had a change of regime, and Sandy Grushow and these other guys came in who were sort of like, well isn't this supposed to be Gilligan's Island? Let's make it character driven. And the old hippy writer, Gary Jacobs didn't like to be told what to do, and he was sure we wouldn't like to either, so he said he didn't want to do it that way. So the show ended. And you know we had an eleven o'clock time slot or some awful time slot. If they put us on after The Simpsons, we would have run for seven years, 'cause I think that show had….you had to have a certain sort of satirical, offbeat mindset in order to like that show. Because what he was doing, he was telling fables - all those shows were allegories about something else, and Fox was like….what? They just didn't get it. They kept trying to change the show into something that Gary didn't want it to be. We were so happy making money and hanging out with each other, we would have done whatever, but Gary had more artistic integrity than we did. It did get voted one of the fifty worst shows of all time by TV Guide, so that's something of a claim to fame. And Evan Handler, I've told some of you, Evan Handler, who was the young yuppie in that - no - I was the yuppie in that - he was the offbeat guy. He played Andrew on Broadway, in I Hate Hamlet. He was the original Andrew. There are only nine people in theater and we all know each other.

Gregory who? Yeah. I've thought about playing Atticus a lot, over the years. One thing - it's a good school show - you can always get schools in to see it, but I've wanted to play Atticus for a while, and probably will at some point. I think I can play Atticus for a few more years. Yes. Maybe I'll talk Rene (Copeland of the Tennessee Repertory Theatre) into doing it at the rep, and you can all come back here. Nah, but I love that…I don't know how good the play is - I've never seen it on stage before, but I've loved the movie for a long time. Can…does anyone know who's first movie it was? He became a famous movie star later on? Yeah. Duval played Boo Radley in it. He was the spooky, retarded guy. The hero of the piece, and he never said anything. All he did was stand in a corner.

I loved the play. I played Rosencrantz in it in nineteen (Lane mumbles to obscure the date.) Some of the best reviews of my life were that show. It's wonderful. Have any of you seen it? Do you know the play? It's what's happening offstage in Hamlet - sort of in a weird time/space continuum. We had great fun with that. We had like a 99 seat theater in the valley, years ago. I loved the play. I'd like to actually do that and Hamlet at the same time with the same cast - that would be fun - double bill. In rep, you play one, one night and one the next, but with the same cast. The only thing is usually, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are not your strongest actors in the company. Usually your Hamlet is your strongest actor, so you'd have to have real depth of company in order to pull that off, but it could be done. It could be done. You'd just have this brilliant Rosencrantz and Guildenstern in Hamlet, on the Hamlet night.

Mr Lane Davies! That’s sort of English as a second language – have I been enamoured? It means was I fond of Harley [you crushin' on Harley] What? Yeah… Yeah… Yeah that... that... That would be a yes. That would be a yes. Yes, she’s one of my favorite people...or was...still is one of my favorite people. That’s all I’ll say. I don’t want to get in trouble.

Daemon. Yeah. Actually...it was optioned for a while. Umm... by a group out of Atlanta and then erm... that same guy Michael Simpson was interested in it again because he was going to be doing some stuff in Louisiana. Umm… and then two things happened. Umm M Knight Shakalakalaka did the Village and it’s alarmingly similar in some ways to Daemon only his sort of cops out.. as if though it wasn’t really supernatural and mine actually deals with the supernatural. And umm.. and then Katrina hit and knocked the film industry out of Louisiana for 5 years so. Umm I’m not... So I doubt that anything will ever happen with it but I had fun writing it. It did have kind of a life for a while it just never got made. You know like 90% of the other stuff that gets written in or around Los Angeles. Writing is not really my thing. I’m a better editor than I am a writer, though this was a… it was not a bad piece you know. To get anything optioned is something of an accomplishment. It just never got made. Though I’m not crying over it.

And the question? [The question is do you mind being remembered for a soap opera. Mason isn’t Shakespeare. Is acting acting?] Umm yeah it’s err it’s sort of a multi part any way you cut it. No, I don’t mind being remembered for Mason. You know if I weren’t remembered for Mason I wouldn’t be able to get people to come... as many people to come see Shakespeare as I have over the years. Umm.. Would I like to be remembered rather as the greatest Hamlet of my generation or something... probably but how many people are. You know most people have....Most of the people that remember John Gielgud don’t...never saw him play Hamlet, you know, but he was one of the Hamlets of his generation. But most people remember him as playing the butler in Arthur. Which I’m sure he didn’t mind because it probably, you know, helped his old age, you know, quite a lot. So...You know careers are funny things it’s not, you know, with actors.. umm... the ones for whom their career is just one thing are generally not the happier ones. I’ve had an extremely eclectic career as most of you know. You know between being Elvis in, you know, Nova Sibersk and umm... Mason Capwell in Burbank... it’s...it’s been really varied... but I’ve liked doing it all. You know. And I wouldn’t have been happy doing just one thing. If I’d like gotten a series as soon as I came to L.A. and then did it for 10 years, I think I would have been a very unhappy person. I might be a very rich person but.. umm.. but I don’t think I would be as happy as I am now, you know. And having tasted what real fame is like because... there’s places in Europe where I was like Elvis, you know, where I had stretch limos and bodyguards and crowds following me and all of that stuff. Would I want that all the time? No. I don’t think so. You have no life when you’re that noticeable. There was a time where I literally couldn’t walk down the street in some cities in Europe without... with any convenience at all I always had to stop and deal with a crowd... or duck. You know. I wouldn’t want that. You know. It would make it hard to do like a play with a regional theatre in Tennessee if I were Brad Pitt. People would look at it as some sort of great fall from grace. But would I want to trade places with Brad Pitt? No, not really. You know. Is Brad Pitt any happier than I am on a day to day basis? I sincerely doubt it. [Not even with Angelina Jolie?] No, especially not. Now with Jennifer Aniston... Jennifer Aniston I might be a little bit jealous if he gets back together with her. I have a funny story off the subject about Jennifer Aniston. Umm. There was a time when my career was like really hot, right after Good and Evil, even though that show didn’t go, I was being seen for a lot of stuff and thought I was quite special. You know because I’d broken that glass ceiling between daytime and night time. And...umm... and then all of a sudden Friends hit and umm... all of a sudden everybody...they wanted everybody under 30, you know. And so I’d be sitting around in casting offices with Robert Hays and other actors you’d recognize and we’d all be going like, ‘Has anybody seen my career?’, you know, because we were all like forty-ish leading men, which is what everybody wanted for a while. Umm but I was at Warner Bros auditioning for something...umm... and this girl comes up to me... darling girl and she says ‘Hi, you don’t know me, you know my dad umm John Aniston. He was on Days of Our Lives about the same time you were and I’m Jennifer Aniston. I just loved you on Santa Barbara and I’m so embarrassed but I loved you on Santa Barbara. I loved you on Good & Evil. That’s all I wanted to say.’ You know and I was like ‘Well aren’t you the cutest little thing!’ I did everything but pat her on the head and say, you know, well you are the sweetest thing. ‘Cause she was darling needless to say and she was so effusive in her praise, you know. Had I known that, you know, a year later she was going to wreck my career with Friends... she was probably reading for Friends that day. You know she could well have been reading for Friends that day, you know. I probably should have just, you know, taken her into a room and stabbed her and left her under the desk you know. I might... my night time career might have been better in the early nineties if that happened. Exactly. So that’s my Jennifer Aniston story. How did we get on that? Oh, Brad Pitt led to that.

I don’t think I’d change anything. You know if like... Piaf has the song about regrets ‘Je ne regrette rien’ or something. Umm I don’t really regret much. I look back and I think there are things I might have done differently. I probably should have spent more time in New York. I think I sort of copped out on New York ‘cause New York was a much tougher environment than L.A. And I was just starting to get some... a little bit of attention in New York and I came out to L.A. and just stayed. But I probably would have gotten more respect in L.A. if I’d gone ahead and waited and gotten some Broadway stuff. But I wouldn’t really call that a regret, it’s just you look back over your career and if I... if I had that different information set at the time I might have done some things differently but do I regret doing, not really. You know, I’m pretty, you know, if I were more unhappy with my life right now maybe I would have more regrets but I’m actually pretty happy with my life right now. So, that’s just my nature.

Well... [Are you going to be Elliott’s dad again when she gets married on Scrubs?] I have no idea. Umm... I know that I’m in another... that they...err... I signed a thing and got money for a clip they used from another show but whether I’ll actually be in that or not I don’t know, they haven’t told me. Umm and if somebody offered... I’m just not chasing work in L.A. right now. If I’m out in L.A. doing a show and something comes up I go out for it but my deal with my agent is, you know, if they offer something I’ll fly back to L.A. and I’ll do it, you know, but umm I’m just not chasing anything but that doesn’t mean I won’t do guest star work, you know and if I’m out there during pilot season and a pilot comes up then I’ll go out for a pilot but... I’m at a point in my life where I’m just so over all of the cars and other aspects of the business and I’d rather just take it easy for a while. I’m in a curious sort of limbo professionally, you know, if my hair were like all grey I’d probably work more than I do now. I’d look more like a senator or a judge or what have you but…umm… I just, you know, I’m at a point where I’d rather do like the stuff like I was doing here. It’s just more fun for me to do and I’ve been fortunate enough that I can kind of do that. I don’t have to be out there chasing work on a day to day basis. But I’m not going to turn down work I can’t really afford to turn down. [You could always go back to New York] Well yeah and I’ve thought about that I’ve got an agent actually, theatre agent that keeps saying you got to go to New York there’s a shortage of leading men who sing but that would mean... I can’t take the boys with me to New York, you know, they’d hate it. Umm... Thatcher couldn’t put his shotgun and bandolier on his shoulder and walk down the street and start shooting at cans you know. Umm... so... err... at this point in my life, you know... I might go to New York for a while later on but right now I’m pretty happy where I am, you know. I’ve got lots to do, lots on my plate right now. None of it is the stuff that’s going to put me in the tabloids but umm.. I’m having fun doing it, like the show…like the show you saw last night.

Well none of them look like me. We have a… we have a dog and three cats. We have a dog named Bailey who’s mostly German Shepherd, very sweet natured dog. Umm and then we have three cats. An older black and white six toed cat named Toes, appropriately enough ‘cause he has six toes on each front foot and umm... is the laziest cat on God’s planet. I mean it’s one of those cats that if... if there weren’t food upstairs he’d never go upstairs. Umm and then umm one younger than him named Swirls and then err... a year old cat... err... sort of a Brindle smallish female cat umm… formerly named Ossalot but I call her Poot. She looks more like a Poot to me than a Ossalot, I thought Ossalot was kind of pretentious so… They’re all distinct personalities but they don’t resemble anybody out of the family.

Umm… well that doesn’t really matter. The important thing for soaps is that you know everything that happened before. So when you... you know when you get a part in a play you have to figure out, well what was his childhood like, you know, where did he live, what sort, you know, what made him the person he is in the show. So a big part of the work besides learning the lines is figuring all that stuff out that makes the character what it is. The advantage to daytime... is you walk in that day knowing all that stuff because you’ve been playing the part for x number of years. You know, you know more than the writers do about who the character is and why he behaves that way. [Is it a little more fun knowing that you’re creating? I mean ‘cause that character’s the kind of guy where you take it as an actor. Where as with a fully developed character like the Barrymore one last night, there’s a beginning, there’s a middle and there’s an end. There’s nothing really for you to write, it’s just to interpret it.] There are advantages to both, you know. I…Like Barrymore I bore easily… I tire of a play easily, you know, a six week run is about my maximum and I actually start to get tired of it before that. But in daytime as banal as the material can sometimes be and I’d think we’d all agree that it can be a little bit silly...err... and superficial... At least it’s fresh material every day. The only real work is just learning the lines. You know the rest of it is the fun part of acting. You know.

I don’t…. I don’t think the… the savvy ness has… is as important as just…. Umm… appreciation, you know, I’d rather have a small appreciative audience that laughs at all the places they’re supposed to laugh than a huge audience that just sort of sits there like lumps on a log. You know. But sometimes that doesn’t have anything to do with how educated they are or not. We did have some smaller audiences in this run that were actually more appreciative than some of the bigger audiences but umm… The advantage to a bigger audience is people are more comfortable with the comedy, they’re just more comfortable laughing, you know, and so the laughs tend to be bigger even though they may not be getting the play as much. So.

Thank God. I mean were we all as ready for that to happen as I was? [Niteowl (Susan) - I’ve never seen it before and I’m sick of Tori.] Yeah [Gluey - Shut up I like her!] I liked her personally a great deal I just got so tired of the storyline. Umm... I... it was always fun when you had physical stuff as long as I didn’t have to take off my shirt and get body paint on and all that stuff. The physical stuff was fun. It was that relentless day to day debating of stuff that got so tiresome because it was reams of dialogue to learn but none of it was particularly exciting or inspired or anything. You know you sort of wanted something to happen. Does that ring a bell? I just get... [tape is changed] memory of had to be put in right at the front of your brain and go right out... otherwise…. so it’s like amnesia, you know. I look at some of those scenes I don’t even remember the sets because there was so much material that had to go in and out. If you tried to learn it like speak the speech I’ve known that stuff most of it for years and years, you know, it will stay but the stuff that… that daily grind from Santa Barbara, a lot of that stuff went in one ear and out the other by the next night, you know. I would learn a speech that long and the next day would not be able to do it, you know.

What about them? [Gluey - Which one do you like better?] Oh I liked Mason better. I thought Mason was a much fuller character than Sonny. No there was no question. They only... Sonny was a device to keep Nancy and me from killing each other. They...they had to split us up and I... you know... he was fun to play. I said make him southern and it’ll be fun and so they did and... umm...but I didn’t think he was nearly as fleshed out as err Mason. I don’t think he had the complexity. It could be. He was just a good old boy, you know. Yeah.